IntrattenimentoWhat Happened To Our Villains? The Critical DrinkerPubblicato il Mese favisualizzazioni 971K 10K ScaricareEvery hero needs a good villain. Movie villains used to be awesome, but now they kind of suck. Join me as I explain why.Commenti The Critical DrinkerMese faWant to help support this channel? Check out my books on Amazon: www.amazon.com/Will-Jordan/e/B00BCO7SA8%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share Subscribe on Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheCriticalDrinker Subscribe on SubscribeStar: www.subscribestar.com/the-critical-drinkerIsekai NPC3 giorni fa@Criminals rule the world now! Funny to find out about his name in the english version this way. I watched the same movie like 12 years ago and in German he was just called _" Lord Helmet'ly "_ to translate it as close as possible. Funny. How a name is so relatable without having it ever heard or read in english. ^_^Criminals rule the world now!3 giorni faDarth helmet is a better villain than most of the garbage nowadays.Isekai NPC3 giorni fa4:13 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh Drinker - read the Darth Vader Comic Series. The whole "Darth Vader" personality is basically just an Anakin Skywalker being out of control and just wanting to die or destroy everything in front of him. With his service as an excuse. His service to Palpatine and only him only, not even to the Empire itself.TNWODISCIPLE6 giorni fachina happened to our villains.matthew cherrington7 giorni faWhat do you mean goth Vader is greatHirscH3 ore faI didn't watch Birds of Prey, but no way they did my guy Black Mask Dirty like that wtf, why does he look like a rip off of scarface.Jayfire4 ore faThe problem with this video is that you only provide a few examples from popular, notably bad/divisive films: Capt. Marvel, WW84, Star Wars Prequels. There are more movies out there then Disney films and DC. And there are many more movies that have great villains. And you only list a small number of recent examples from similar worksK Khan8 ore faI couldn't understand how they wanted us to look at the mother in King of Monsters sympathetically after she unleashed Ghidorah on the world. She was responsible for millions of deaths and because she decides to save her own daughter the movie fn redeems her?!? This video really put that into context now.ssj4broly !!8 ore faIt's odd that we are judged for disliking these characters because of their gender when it's the writers that clearly have an issue with gender.Peking A10 ore faWell said, totally agree.Faylum119 ore faMelkor. Best villain ever created.JonahGiorno faNot only is it unfair for females to win all of their fights in movies(10:48-til end of video) they've been having "G-spots" and "orgasms" since the 1980's😒 Once we as dominant males get women back into kitchens barefoot and pregnant over a hot stove things will get back to normal🥳: this comment is made in jest, please "DO NOT" take it seriously.Theodore BennettGiorno faThis is the reason I haven't been to a theatre in months.Peter PandemicGiorno faAlan Rickman as the sherriff of Nottingham was one the best villains everwargamesmasterGiorno faI know Star Wars villains were raped repeatedly by Disney executives in the last 5 years.Self-LawGiorno fastar wars, the empire strikes back and the return of the jedi still gives me goosebumps.A CGiorno faWe just elected the villains.paul hugo2 giorni faModern cinematic male villains are not allowed to be threatening... and modern female villains have to be misunderstood victims of male wrong doing.Josh Groban2 giorni faI think it's because movie writers are trying to be more like fandom canon. Actual villains vs there fanon counterparts are exactly like old villains vs modern day villains. Funny, weak, secretly whiny because haha funny are jokes a fandom would make.Deejay Garimi2 giorni faStar wars was killed for me when the perky smart precocious Anakin became Vader... as an emo whiner teen that was controlled to evil ends...? and Kylo followed THAT path. Disney as Corp sucks since 80s. Frozen was last one I could tolerate to watch in their animated offerings. Cute, mediocre with some feminism pills slipped in my popcornLex602 giorni faI always get mad when a male hero doesn´t want to fight with a female villain even if she is similar or even superior in power. The only way they can defeat her is: a) Another female step up and fight, usually the hero's love interest. No matter if she is going to get heavily beaten up by the villain. Probably will get some help from the hero. [Scoth Pilgrim and Kick Ass 2 as examples] b) The villain turns out to be a transgender woman [Ace Ventura Pet detective]. LET MALE HEROES FIGHT FEMALE VILLAINS FFS! LET THEM WIN AFTER STRUGGLING! I think the only male hero who has no problem with that is Batman.Harold Merewether2 giorni faI always found that they tried to make the new Star Wars films comedies.JSC Playz2 giorni faI agree with most things but I think it's probably more likely to get a good villain in a movie with multiple heroes, as it is not just a man beating up a woman it is a man beating up 5 people y'know, look at infinity war, thanos was a very imposing threat and he had to take on both men and women so no one complained, to them it was no longer "man beat women=sexism" it was now "man beat everyone=equity"Lacey Blue2 giorni faGreat video couldn't agree more :)Kordell Swoffer2 giorni faBrie Larson is just awful.Tommy Tran2 giorni fasquadWoctopuscollective2 giorni fagood take. i’ll use some of this in my personal writing and see if i can make a difference. writing villians is realllly hard.Darth Sandiest3 giorni faI think black masks character in birds of prey was intentionally created like that because famous rich boy who has a large criminal empire is being threatened by new group of criminalsVictorian Rabbit3 giorni faI wrote a hate comment about how weak and boring disneys modern villians are. They hated me 😆 soooo mutch. Buuuuut i always loved the villians. The old ones. Sooooo, i decided to be The Villian xDDDDominic Hjorth3 giorni faKylo ren had so much potential. Like give him a good backstory and power, he would have been iconic..Criminals rule the world now!3 giorni faHe had to take his helmet off so we could see he was the ultimate bad guy...a CIS white male!!!Johnny Regularhand3 giorni faYeah everything you said makes sense, you should see apollo and starbuck beat the fuck out of each other in battlestar galactica thats equality, watched ragnarok again the other day and thought how can thor nearly beat thanos but not hela and how can hela be able to put up a fight surter there wasn’t even a battle was just woosh and a bangwillembakker233 giorni faAlfter the first 38 seconds I was laughing out loudFascinatingFlounder3 giorni faJohn Wick Chapter 1cluckin bell3 giorni faChad Vader vs Virgin RenMike Frost3 giorni faI actually rooted for Kylo throughout the Disney movies.A A3 giorni faWoke times and female heros..at home stops till your girl or wife have to carry 50 kg bag from car to garage..Sappho3 giorni faVillains are getting castrated, especially when the plot is equivalent of an snl skit..jgunner2804 giorni faNot sure I'd agree the gendering aspect is the only cause of this, but definitely a factor. Still, I think another is just the trend of "subversion" which itself has become kinda shriveled up. Lots of people went into phases of the anti-hero, and now the subversion of elements, where they all want to do something "different" or "suprising" without the heavier thought developed into it. That, and the "realism" of a villain being someone spoiled and whiny. In the end though, it doesn't work right for the reasoned named. In the majority of stories, you need some serious hostile struggle and obstacle to overcome. The villain doesn't have to be the only way to do this, but it sure is a massive force to help the process if that's your kind of story. Even flawed villains can do this so well, especially going the route of sharing flaws with the protagonist and yet showing a side that uses it differently, and how the hero will triumph over it with their more virtuous or learned method after all the struggles to develop away from becoming a mirror villain. ... or they just take the lazy way of making weak whiny villains with a more powerful proxy, that in the end amounts to badly written heroes and boring villains. I think Kylo Ren was actually pretty awesome for his worth. The point was certainly to deflect and break down the Vader tropes, and I think they actually did pull off the subversion with him well enough to be entertaining. In fact, it was a godsend for the initial movie, because he was basically the only component that wasn't a repackaged formula of fanservice. but the problem was everyone one else. Everyone! The natural conclusion if Ren was so stupid, petty, and lacking, was that others would be picking up the slack for him, even manipulating him like the tool he is, and giving you a real villain to fear from the shadows. Except no, they didn't do that, they continued to prove this force of evil was somehow maintained by miscostumed clowns. Phasma was a Boba Fett shadow that showed up to look cool and embarrass itself, I don't even care if I mispell snoke because he was such a sequel bait pile of waste, and less can even be said of others. Each movie couldn't figure out who the true villain was, so they had to revive the literal dead zombie form to ruin a classic true villain of old. They didn't want to do a cool villain, they kept wanting to subvert their propped villains, the coolest looking female stormtrooper included.Adny Angrand4 giorni faI thought the EXACT same thing while watching Force Awakens in theaters.Joey Konyha4 giorni faI love how you never miss a chance to shit on Brie Larson. Don’t ever change, Drinker, don’t ever change.Dragon Helivar4 giorni fameh in the man of steel clip supes was getting double teamed but i see your pointoriginal character4 giorni faIn the defense of Kilo Ren. He is supposed to be the a pale comparison to vaderkemark cooper4 giorni fawant proper villain??? watch anime and read mangaJoao Gabriel4 giorni faSomeone should make a villain that is psychopath: because them he would be bad just to beMirnum0074 giorni faYour three examples have one thing in common; they're going against strong wahmen who has to win because wahmen rule and men droolIonut Cristian4 giorni faSurprise twist = Kylo Ren was actualy the protagonist. Why else would he be the only one with somewhat of a character ark ? It surely isn't bad writing from a company as big as disney.WoodmanFeatherhigh4 giorni faGoddammit. You're absolutely right.Lee Waters4 giorni faIn case you don't have time for this video, let me sum it up. "I only like villains with the specific traits and experiences of the villains from movies of my particular youth who had stereotypically male traits such as dominance and who commanded respect. Stories that have their own villains rather than facsimiles of Star Wars archetypes are bad and they make me angry, regardless of the genres of those stories. For example, the comedic aspects of the comedy villains from the comedic series of Charlie's Angels films detracts from these comedy movies because comedically they don't command respect like mysterious Darth Vader, from Star Wars, a space opera in which he maintains control of his emotions at all times. Villains who display anger or lose control of their emotions are failures because for unexplained reasons, any villain who is not like DARTH Vader is a result of poor writing and more importantly, this indicates that the inclusion of women as heroes and appeasement of SJWs is clearly responsible for this general emasculation of the villain in modern movies." You're welcome. I wholeheartedly agree that the girl power trope which prevents films from showing women ever defeated by men reduces the tension of the story since we already know who will always win in mixed gender conflicts, but dude, this is just the bounce back from hundreds - at least - of years which showed women as nothing more than props. Do you really not have a larger perspective than the last 40 years or so? If you're annoyed at this overused trope, imagine how many women must have felt with the incessant tropes throughout our culture that have portrayed women as lesser than men in pretty much every important relevant way, relevance also being defined by the men. We are all going to get tired of the overused girl-power-uber-alles trope, and things will find a new equilibrium. This is the life cycle of any trope. And I'm sure it won't take the thousands of years it took for the pendulum to swing away from the male-power-is-a-given tropes that have existed at least in Western media since - well - the beginning of media. Let the women have a decade or two. I'm sorry you happen to live at the time of this readjustment and not 100 years before or after this moment of realignment since it seems to bother you so much, but those are the breaks. Buck up and stop being a puss in boots who lost his boots about it.Michael Lazarou4 giorni fawhy is it ive been so brainwashed ive never noticed this before being toldJeff Richards4 giorni faGreat stuff keep up the good workTyrion Lannister4 giorni faSomeone's not watching Attack on Titan...James Eugene5 giorni faThere was better villains in G.I.JOE (the 1984 cartoon)The Senate5 giorni faSnoke looked like a rotting peanut.Steve Killgore5 giorni fa1:04 I saw what you did there !Jerome Bout5 giorni faImagine a remake of die hard with hans gruber's hostage complaining for gluten free food and gender fluid toilet, and about the fact that the terrorist crew is not diverse enough.Tanuki G5 giorni faBut doesn’t sarah connor defeat the terminator? There isn’t any sort of pandering towards the female audience there. As for the Star Wars movies, I agree that Kylo is a problematic villain but a fun character. The problem with the new star wars movies is that they lack any strong central villain, like you mentioned. But looking at a strong, modern villain, I think Roman Sionis is solid. He is childish and is unhinged, but it manifests in acts of violence. He intimidates the people around him, and makes the world a worse off place to be. His power lies in his ability to manipulate and intimidate with a weak psyche. He’s the playground bully turned up to 11. But I think you have a point that some villains are worse than others currently, with writers unsure of how to handle previously established characters and entities, especially Disney.Simon Matthews5 giorni faHa ha I love your videos & moonshine is aviation fuel!#BatWho Laughs5 giorni faThis man needs more subscribers.Crozan Egovult5 giorni faThe solution is equal rights . . . and lefts.Dave of Yorkshire5 giorni faWhat happened to our villains? They were hired by Disney and took over the narrative to destroy entertainment as we know it...Jason Jeff5 giorni fayeah thats the worst booze everA. Inai5 giorni faThe best villians I’ve seen are General Grevious 2003 version, Raggyo Kiriuyin from Kill la kill, Tywin lannister GOT DIO from Jojo bizzare adventuresChianty B5 giorni faWell I believe things are turning around back to the so called normal again, could be very wrong thoughPixelsRnautDed6 giorni faDr. Claw was more intimidating then these villians.Matthew Horton6 giorni faMade me think of GI Jane with Viggo and DemiCaer Ibormeith6 giorni faKylo Ren could have been a great villainous anti-hero if they actually honored the character traits they gave him within the plot and if there were an actual villain to contrast him with and if there was an actual plot that made any sense or if the films weren't generally trash.royal001ful6 giorni faYou have to downplay men for women to be lead characters...they are horrible action heroes...they can only succeed in a fantasy scenario...weak men are a hollywood fantasy...unfortunately, life imitates art.doc blade6 giorni faDisney villains must not scare children...Attila Dukai6 giorni faFor 10:54 John Wick vs Ares.Euphemia Gnash6 giorni faAdam Driver is so good as Kylo Ren. Even if he wasn't a villain villain. He acted so good. He looks more like the protagonist tbhZak VanDoorne6 giorni faAnd for that, you earned my subscription!TNWODISCIPLE6 giorni fachina happened to our villains.Jason Cunningham6 giorni faWhen you said they make you wonder who the real villain is, the footage should be of Johnny Lawrence.Max DeRoche6 giorni faCant wait for when the Drinker takes on the massive challenge of rewriting the Star Wars sequels so theyre actually goodChris Sykes6 giorni faFacts!!!!!👍🏿👍🏿Darryl Kemp6 giorni faImagine a world were people shout equality but make one sex unequally win 🤣Sam Black6 giorni faFaaaaaarken hell.. I had to pause the video for a good 5 minutes after the slaughter of bree larson a minute in. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🥳Radoslav Puhalovic6 giorni faIt's simple, Disney happened...Joe Bama6 giorni faGotta disagree on Thor Ragnarok, ofcourse they didn’t quote the source material word for word but in the comics (minus a few occasions) Thor couldn’t hang with Hela...like not even close. I think that’s the only example I see really grasping at strawsA A7 giorni faI have completely erased the sequel trilogy from my mind.. Never existed. Star Wars ends with The Return of the Jedi..Jack Bits6 giorni faMe too. Sad, Kilo Ren had so much potential to be a great villain. The scene the drinker points out where Po is sassing him...should have been an immediate force choke or some new just as scary ability. I remember as a kid when I first watched SW, Vader was as scary to me as Jason from Friday the 13th or any other horror movie villain.Derek Cheng7 giorni faJust watched 'i care a lot' and immediately reminded me of this videoMarvin Lee7 giorni faThese is what women fight all along equality... And now a transgender women is dominating women sports... Haist...JEN'S WONDERFUL WORLD7 giorni faModern 'female protagonists' are less original and more pathetic than Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Ravenway. As a woman who has always looked up to strong female characters, I must say that they've really run dry. STOP PANDERING PLEASE!!!!! I grew up with Ripley, and Sarah Connor, Ziva David, Hermione, even the Teen Titans! They all make Rey 'Skywalker' look pathetic. Don't get me STARTED on Captain Karen! Stop treating women as *sensitive precious wittle babies* that can't actually do anything unless you make them all powerful! They prech about how they're making women 'strong and brave!' and yet look what they did to Mulan! Cheers, mate!!Phil C7 giorni faSo true Mr Drinker!Ola Nordmann7 giorni faOne of my favorite vilans: Simcoe from Turn.stretch6548 giorni faI thought "Gus Fring" was an awesome villain in "Breaking Bad" - the kind of guy you actually wanted to win.fahs8 giorni faHeros usually follow a specific archetype, it has always been that way. Villians used to be unbridled and undefined, not anymore.madman1234568 giorni faCould have a female hero go against a female antagonist. There, i solved the idiot rage problem. You're welcome! :Dbonzwah18 giorni faThat’s kinda why, after walking out of the theatre from force awakens, that Rey was gonna fall and Kylo would become the primary protagonist. Cuz they established that he kinda sucks at being villain and that Rey is stronger. Every flaw you pointed out about kylo...it seemed too obvious to be anything but deliberate...but I guess not.Philip Coggins8 giorni fa0:09 So the same age then?Minh Hoàng Trần8 giorni faThe Major in Hellsing Ultimate is the absolute best villain in Anime, especially in the English dub version.Iron Reed8 giorni faThey kill the woman pretty fairly in the John Wick movies...granted semi proving your point by over establishing the bonafides before having the protagonist kill them to elevate his character.Joey Konyha8 giorni faKylo Renn had the misfortune of being pitted against Mary Sue Skywalker-...eeerrrrrrr....Palpatine.Nekrone Schwartz9 giorni faHollywood's formula is pretty simple. White males are only allowed to be shown as subservient, cowardly, jealous, underhanded losers. Black males are allowed to be strong, confident, sympathetic alpha males and possible love interest for White females, but they are very rarely used to portray villains.Medium Chain9 giorni faMan can't beat woman. Woman can beat man. yeah that sounds equal.Ðevil Shiro9 giorni fait's only coincidence that all of the movie's with weak male villains have strong independent women that are supposed to be the hero, they don't pose any threat because if they do then the sjw's will scream how the female characters were oppressed ...like that matters ... the bigger the monster the bigger the payoff when it falls ... but no if the villain is a man he can only be weak, restrain himself and be dumb, let's be honest if any male bad guy if he lands a punch on a female she should fall and should find other ways to bring them down also it shouldn't matter if a villain man strikes down a female hero they are the villain they are not supposed to be moral, they should stop making all of these movies like the villains are complex being tortured and whatever because most of them leave a lot to be desired and most don't even make sense, even as much as i like marvel's infinity war and endgame Thanos's goal to kill half of the universe so they don't consume all of the resources makes no god damn sense, for technologically advanced beings it wouldn't be that hard to rebuild and in less than 10 generations the population probably would bounce back and in end game he goes full bad guy and wants to remake the universe the way he wants it too ... honestly i would have preferred the original story where he does it to impress Death but w/e.... Villains should be villains they should not be affected by morality and especially not sjw moralityCoolpool 7859 giorni fa"What is Captain Marvel without Brie Larson?" Actual potential for a good character?Mr Gaye10 giorni faIf Thanos was a Strong Muscular Female Alien, she would've ended the entire MCU in endgame.GIBBY X310 giorni faSo true, typically Hollywood trying to create a scenario where everyone all across the board is always equal.klipser6610 giorni faWhat Hollyweird is doing in the last decade is making us root for the villains as they are the underdogs FFS! Greedy and lazy!Jose Luis10 giorni faMan, this video is a master class!Oathbreaker10 giorni faMary Sue, Mary Sue, pretty strong woman Mary sue!Clint Hosking10 giorni faThis is why John Wick's fight with Perkins was so surprisingly effective. Because of this trend I really thought she would easily subdue him somehow. Instead we got a great, evenly matched fight with an uncertain outcome.